On June 16, 2026, OpenAI released a Podcast feature on "evals" (evaluations) for measuring frontier model capabilities, in which Tejal Patwardhan, who leads its frontier evals team, discussed responses to the saturation and "gaming" of conventional benchmarks. Her conversation with host Andrew Mayne aired as OpenAI Podcast Episode 21, "Why Tejal Patwardhan stopped underestimating the models," on YouTube and Acast.
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